WOR Radio interview
Community Concerns
Host Bill Bertenshaw
June 22, 2003
1. What is Turning the Corner?
NS: Turning the Corner was born last year to help
women survivors of
domestic violence achieve financial self-sufficiency. It was born
because without the ability to handle finances, many women remain
or return to abusive relationships.
Bill, domestic violence is just like cancer. It does not care that
you are wealthy, indigent, middle-class, black, white, oriental,
how old you are, what religion you practice or what country you
are from. You never know when it will strike.
2. Nancy, your bio indicates you are a survivor of domestic
violence and Turning the Corner has something to do with that part
of your life…
NS: The name Turning the Corner is very personal
for me. It’s personal because I “turned the corner”
on December 28th, 1991 and left a 20 year abusive marriage. I’m
catholic and Sicilian. So I was brought up according to the Sicilian
Catholic “rule book”. For example,
“You make your bed, you lie in it”.
Obviously, one would think this statement has to do with how clean
and crisp the bed linens are ….but let me translate, “If
you screw up, you’re stuck, so deal with it, because it’s
your fault and there’s no way out of it”.
“Carry Your Cross”.
That one baffled me for awhile then a light went off and I realized
it meant, “Life is tough, there’s little if any joy
and you have “to carry the weight” of your unhappiness
and keep it to yourself, because no one is really interested”.
So as a teenager I was ready for that abusive relationship to come
into my life and it did at age 16. By 17 I has sex and of course
I was sure that everyone could see the “Scarlet Letter”
on my chest. So boy was I relieved when he asked me to marry him.
He was doing me a favor and making me an “honest” woman.
What woman: I was 19!
The emotional abuse began before we married. He would be jealous
of my friends and just yell at me for no real reason. He told me
once, “If someone doesn’t yell at you, they really don’t
love you”. DUH! anyway I fell for it.
The physical abuse began the day we returned from the “honeymoon”.
It was a combination of physical, sexual and emotional terrorism.
3. How widespread is domestic violence?
NS: Statistically, 3 to 4 million women are battered
every year.
Also approximately 50% of homeless women and children are fleeing
abusive situations.
About 85% of the women who leave violent relationships return to
the abusive relationship. All too often peoples assume that women
stay and or return to violent relationships because they have low
self-esteem. However, the reasons women stay or return are far more
complicated that the strength of her character. A significant proportion
of women who return to violent relationships attribute their inability
to deal with their finances as a major contributing factor, which
is often enhanced by the fact that the abuser often has all of the
economic and social status.
Bill, there are also women like me, women who do not report the
violence, the unreported statistics. Women who live double lives
one as a competent professional by day and the abused wife by night.
The economic effects of domestic violence are felt far beyond the
personal life of the victim. Research indicates :
That as many as 74% of working abused women are harassed on the
job, I know I was one of them.
56% are late for work on at least 60 days. How can you get to work
on time if you are being terrorized the evening before?
And 20% lose their jobs altogether. Obviously, this is all related
to days off, days late or days they have to leave early. Employers
have so much tolerance, especially if they are not aware.
4. Why Turning the Corner?
NS: There are a number of good programs that teach
financial literacy. However, Turning the Corner is the only organization
that utilizes a holistic approach.
Turning the Corner takes a holistic approach to help these women
achieve personal financial health and independence. The Business
of Me, which is the name of the program, directly addresses abused
women’s fears of money and provides specific methods to overcome
those fears. The program outlines a series of tools and action steps
to develop all aspects of developing and maintaining financial self-sufficiency.
The workshops address issues relating to self-worth or as we call
it self-ability. Self-ability is one’s perception of what
one is able to do. These women are mired in what is wrong with them
that they take that way of thinking into the area of managing money.
This is usually reinforced with negative self-talk and the myth
the “postponing dealing with money” brings ease and
buys time. Turning the Corner helps the participants understand
positive ways of thinking about money; dealing with negative self-concepts;
understand positive ways of thinking about money and identifying
their own values, thereby, enabling them to create a future based
on the rewards of self-ability.
5. Tell me more about “The Business of Me”
workshops.
NS: “The Business of Me” is a workshop
series consisting of five two-hour sessions, four that are offered
consecutively over a 1 – 4 week period with the fifth being
presented a month after the last session in order to evaluate progress
and answer any questions that may have come up.
Before we begin a program we meet with the organization to review
the areas of importance to their clientele and adapt “The
Business of Me” to attain their desired goals.
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